I have seen a few questions on here regarding lawns and grasses and some notes/replies about soil testing or bringing samples into the Extension. I am wondering what would either of those two things would tell somebody that is trying to repair their yard. Our yard is over 1/2 weeds (creeping charlie or violets?), very bumpy (hurts to walk in your bare feet), and patchy. We live in an older neighboorhood with old established trees, but suprisingly, the shadiest part might be in the best shape (nice grass and no wees). I am trying to decide if we should continue to "maintain" our problems or start anew. About this time over the last few years we have aerated and slit seeded and I usually apply the Scott's 4-step system throughout the year, but it seems to be a losing battle. Any information on what steps I should take first would be appreciated.